Comments on: Monticello Motor Club: Full Course Turn-by-Turn Guide

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Monticello - LotusTalk - The Lotus Cars Community — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:26:23 +0000

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By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:19:27 +0000

Noah: nice writeup! The turn by turn directions really help me visualize where I want to put the car - will definitely help when I get back to the track on the 28th.

And thanks for the help at Monticello in July. Your help then, this guide, and some XP8’s will really help me on the track!

By: Kai Noeske

Kai Noeske — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:46:50 +0000

Noah: I am so new to the track that I will not try anything fancy - in fact will be happy if I manage to learn your line and not end up in the tires. All I find myself trying is drive tight corners more constant-radius rather than late apex (hairpins, 90 degs, …) because every mph lost takes forever to re-gain - especially below 60 mph where the 3 spd auto tranny has the engine outside the power band. Not sure though if this is much faster; as you say, with fwd I want to get my front wheels straight asap else I cannot go on the throttle without getting understeer… getting bitten both ways. Looking forward!

By: Noah

Noah — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:07:50 +0000

Thanks guys. Kai, I’ll be curious too on whether you change my described line to suit your car, though I suspect that you are front wheel drive would govern that more than our little power gap

997gt3, I agree that the Glen remains the best I’ve been on so far. The flow to the Glen just can’t be beat. For my car, many of the carousels were a bit long around Monticello, though I suspect that with enough power and grip they could become rather interesting. Sort of like the Toe of the Boot at Watkins Glen - absolutely painful in my car, but far more interesting with more power and grip.

By: Kai Noeske

Kai Noeske — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:53:35 +0000

Thanks Noah!!! This is awesome.

Looking forward to trying it out this Monday with SCDA. Might try modifying the line a little bit since my Corolla needs to carry more speed through the corners than your green big-HP car (yes, videos of NJMP/LRP at my website link are actual speed, not slow motion).

Loved the last session at NJMP when you and Jon were playing chase (I was in Jon’s Pinata).

Soon! Kai

By: 997gt3

997gt3 — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:32:46 +0000

drove the long course today for 1st time and your video/report was a huge help. usually takes me many days to learn a track and got the hang of this one very quickly thanks to you! my 3:00+ times means still much to learn though

the course is very nice but still like glen better. i found these carousel style turns too prolonged. other issue is that this course is billed as a club for amateurs but the limited run off, armco, grass borders, and catch fences offer no more security than the pro courses. i would not join for that reason alone but awesome for 1-2 day trips/yr

By: Noah

Noah — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:10:20 +0000

Thanks, glad to hear it’s helpful. Let me know how it works out for your GT3, as that has quite a bit more power than my Miata. Sometimes there are features of the track/terrain that only present themselves with more power.

And yea, just watch out for your braking zones, as you’ll be going FAST! Are you running the long course? The short course will see lower speeds, so runoff is less of an issue…

By: 997gt3

997gt3 — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:56:40 +0000

im new to the site so thanks for this great guide! will be at monticello for 1st time on sept 18 with pda group. using 997 gt3.

should be awesome but not happy to hear about lack of runoff room. these ‘country club’ tracks are supposed to offer much more safety for amateur drivers than typical ‘pro tracks’.