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	<title>Comments on: Racing simulator claims online racing is just as serious as the real thing</title>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Roger, I have to side squarely with Henry on this one.  I've been around most of the tracks in the Northeast countless times, and I've also played Gran Turismo 4 countless times as well.  There is no comparison.  Yes, with a properly positioned steering wheel and pedals GT4 comes close.  But it is just a simulation, and a very poor one for replicating the feel of any car at speed.

And Roger, do you have any idea what is ACTUALLY involved in going to a racing school?  And I mean an ACTUAL, SCCA affiliated school that will get you an ACTUAL racing license, that lets you race in ACTUAL races?  Try 3 days and $3700.  That is 3 solid days of piloting an open-wheeled racecar.  Now please explain to me how this is in any way equivalent to sitting in front of your computer with a Logitech steering wheel?

I agree with Henry - this simulation is just that, a racing simulation.  The only difference I can see between it and GT4 is that iRacing costs a lot more without offering anything more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Roger, I have to side squarely with Henry on this one.  I&#8217;ve been around most of the tracks in the Northeast countless times, and I&#8217;ve also played Gran Turismo 4 countless times as well.  There is no comparison.  Yes, with a properly positioned steering wheel and pedals GT4 comes close.  But it is just a simulation, and a very poor one for replicating the feel of any car at speed.</p>
<p>And Roger, do you have any idea what is ACTUALLY involved in going to a racing school?  And I mean an ACTUAL, SCCA affiliated school that will get you an ACTUAL racing license, that lets you race in ACTUAL races?  Try 3 days and $3700.  That is 3 solid days of piloting an open-wheeled racecar.  Now please explain to me how this is in any way equivalent to sitting in front of your computer with a Logitech steering wheel?</p>
<p>I agree with Henry - this simulation is just that, a racing simulation.  The only difference I can see between it and GT4 is that iRacing costs a lot more without offering anything more.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, I def. didn't catch this from Slashdot.  On my personal blog I like to call out Slashdot for its rediculous articles from time to time:
http://www.henrycipolla.com/blog/2008/01/yet-another-absurd-slashdot-story/

I didn't say it doesn't require commitment to get good.  Any competitive game does.  While I was in Washington I lived with some of the top Smash Brothers Melee players in the world.  They used to practice for several hours a day.  Often, just sitting there repeating the same comples move combination over, and over again so that in tournaments they would not be off by a single frame.

What I said was that it is still a game.  Unlike racing which requires a lore more than commitment.  Just having your car work every weekend is more of a job.

Nadeo created a racing game a while back called Trackmania.  They eventually expanded it into a huge tournament with a $400,000 prize and people from all over the world entered.  (http://www.trackmania.com/en/) iRacing is just Trackmania but with different physics and prettier graphics.  It's not the first idea this "online sport" idea has been tried.  I just don't like this attitude that they are "more than a game".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, I def. didn&#8217;t catch this from Slashdot.  On my personal blog I like to call out Slashdot for its rediculous articles from time to time:<br />
<a href="http://www.henrycipolla.com/blog/2008/01/yet-another-absurd-slashdot-story/" rel="nofollow">http://www.henrycipolla.com/blog/2008/01/yet-another-absurd-slashdot-story/</a></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say it doesn&#8217;t require commitment to get good.  Any competitive game does.  While I was in Washington I lived with some of the top Smash Brothers Melee players in the world.  They used to practice for several hours a day.  Often, just sitting there repeating the same comples move combination over, and over again so that in tournaments they would not be off by a single frame.</p>
<p>What I said was that it is still a game.  Unlike racing which requires a lore more than commitment.  Just having your car work every weekend is more of a job.</p>
<p>Nadeo created a racing game a while back called Trackmania.  They eventually expanded it into a huge tournament with a $400,000 prize and people from all over the world entered.  (http://www.trackmania.com/en/) iRacing is just Trackmania but with different physics and prettier graphics.  It&#8217;s not the first idea this &#8220;online sport&#8221; idea has been tried.  I just don&#8217;t like this attitude that they are &#8220;more than a game&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What they actually say (going by the quote on your own Web site) is that online racing requires as much commitment as a RACING SCHOOL.

Of course it doesn't require the commitment of regular racing like you're twisting those words to read.

To be good at this type of simulator, you have to commit (oh, there's that word again) an awful lot of time to it.

Simple tracks? Have you ever heard of Laguna Seca?

You probably read this on Slashdot and think you know something about it... Pansy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What they actually say (going by the quote on your own Web site) is that online racing requires as much commitment as a RACING SCHOOL.</p>
<p>Of course it doesn&#8217;t require the commitment of regular racing like you&#8217;re twisting those words to read.</p>
<p>To be good at this type of simulator, you have to commit (oh, there&#8217;s that word again) an awful lot of time to it.</p>
<p>Simple tracks? Have you ever heard of Laguna Seca?</p>
<p>You probably read this on Slashdot and think you know something about it&#8230; Pansy.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  I believe you are supposed to buy any of the existing USB ones.  But come on, in most real racing series you have to provide your own equipment.  It only follows that you'd need to source your own wheel here.

-- Henry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  I believe you are supposed to buy any of the existing USB ones.  But come on, in most real racing series you have to provide your own equipment.  It only follows that you&#8217;d need to source your own wheel here.</p>
<p>&#8211; Henry</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are they selling any devices such as all important steering wheels and pedals? Those are very important parts of the driving experience...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they selling any devices such as all important steering wheels and pedals? Those are very important parts of the driving experience&#8230;</p>
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